Medical FAQs @ "No Hospital Specialist Memo, No Talk?!"

last SG · 2004-05-15T10:55:48+00:00

I notice MOs are rather young and have reach CPT rank. How does the route differ from another officer (lets say from infantry)? Assuming both start around t...

wuming78 SG

cos most of the aliments are actually psychologically induced and could be cured by the very visit to the medical centre and the sight of an excuse, so the paracetamol is jus to placate them - placebo effect. Laughing

no lah. paracetamol is the common cure for aloto common aliments?

BMEngineer SG

Do MO participate in the jobs of combat medic also?

wuming78 SG

no. the MO will man the BCS - battalion casualty station, which is o cos abit behind.

BMEngineer SG

Combat medic officer=MO is it???

wuming78 SG

MO = medical officer. combat or not doesnt matter.

BMEngineer SG

Enlighten me on this-So will a MO be rotated to take on the role of combat medic officer?

wuming78 SG

i think we should wait for our in-house MO. Mr. Green

but well, as far as i noe, an MO still goes through the normal command, instructional and staff tours.

if im not wrong, MO is a service vocation rather than combat. i guess wat u mean by a combat medical officer is one who goes to the frontlines to treat casualties. i think this depends more on the posting the MO gets.

saabster SG

Combat MO? Never heard of that.

The closest we normally get to the action is at the BCS. This is usually managed by an MOIC And a MO2IC. The fellas collecting casualties from the front line to the BCS are the combat medics.

MOs that are posted to units like commando and Guards will usually go thru their conversion courses. It is not a must but there is usually pressure from the unit CO to do so. Again their primary job is to man a BCS. NOT to fight or collect casualties

Cheers

chikopek SG

i have some doubts on here:

1) from what i know if we developed new conditions or current conditions worsens before enlistment we should bring along the relevant proof to cmpb right?

2) so which option is better? cmpb or tekong?

3) if we tell the mo in enlistment and downgraded eventually should our stay in bmtc be more than 7 weeks?

saabster SG

If your instructions are to go to CMPB then do it. The advantage of CMPB vs Tekong is that the MOs there have the power to give you an instant downgrade WITHOUT going thru a medical board.

This has the advantage of knowing your PES before enlisting and not going to tekong as a combat fit and then having to bum around as an OOC while waiting for your medical board.

Pes C BMT dunno how long. There is even a PES E BMT. Dunno how long too. The rule to these types of BMTs is that you do nothing much!. The idea is to learn some basic discipline.

Cheers

chikopek SG

Thanks for your answers... Smile

However I still got some doubts...

1) If we went to CMPB with medical documents, will we need to return back to CMPB a few days later for a re-check up or we will be told whether we are qualified for a downgrading on the day we bring the medical documents?

2) Although it is of less trouble to go to CMPB, however I have heard that it is easier to downgrade your PES at Tekong even though it is more troublesome. I wan to know whether it is true or not?

BMEngineer SG

One question to Saabster- Does MO tekan people and do you have any tekaning experience? Very Happy

boariggy SG

Sorry for the late reply , thanks for answering my question. Mr. Green

saabster SG

1. The decision will not be made on the spot. You will probably need to return again to get your confirmation that you have been downgraded.

2. Should be the same. If you have a case for down grade there is no reason why either place should be different. CMPB might seem more difficult only because they are busy and they might "tai chee" their work to the other medical centers.

Cheers

BrUtUs SG

if u r given an excuse(eg. excuse upper limb activities), r u still liable to do the activity when commanders or instructors ask u to?

wuming78 SG

of course not. in fact your commanders are not supposed to make u do the activities tt u r excused from. if anything happens, they will have to take full responsibility.

NathanG5 SG

excuse upper limb wat...not lower limb..they can ask u go run 5click.. Mr. Green

chikopek SG

thanks for your answer again... Embarassed Laughing

however, i still got some more questions:
if in cmpb we r classfied as pes b even though u have specialist letter to support your medical problems then in tekong our situation worsens because of bmt ie someone cannot carry heavy things get pes b even though they have medical letter but situations has worsened since occasionally having to carry heavy things in bmt, will they get to down grade or continue to stay in pes b even though the situation worsens?

Another question: Is mo a NS vocations? if so, how to get into mo for NS vocations?

saabster SG

Hmmm..

You seem to be very concerned about the training at BMT and it's impact on your medical condition.

You have to trust the system, if you have been given PES B then your condition is considered by the SAF to warrant a PES B.

To those that have not done NS:

You must understand that the SAF has a very fixed set of rules as to what can and cannot be downgraded. Having heaps of specialist letters or investigations done will NOT make a difference to your PES status. "But what if something happens" seems to be the next question... Well tough luck, try sueing the SAF. It will be difficult.

That being said, the SAF does put in tremendous effort to take care of their soldiers. If you feel that your condition has worsened in some way which might affect your trainning or health. Highlight it to your MO. They will take the appropriate steps.

Cheers

chikopek SG

Originally posted by saabster:
Hmmm..

You seem to be very concerned about the training at BMT and it's impact on your medical condition.

You have to trust the system, if you have been given PES B then your condition is considered by the SAF to warrant a PES B.

[b]To those that have not done NS:

You must understand that the SAF has a very fixed set of rules as to what can and cannot be downgraded. Having heaps of specialist letters or investigations done will NOT make a difference to your PES status. "But what if something happens" seems to be the next question... Well tough luck, try sueing the SAF. It will be difficult.

That being said, the SAF does put in tremendous effort to take care of their soldiers. If you feel that your condition has worsened in some way which might affect your trainning or health. Highlight it to your MO. They will take the appropriate steps.

Cheers[/b]

thanks for your reply though Smile

however, there are something that i wan to add.................

it is a real encounter based from my friend:
this friend of mine have some spine disorder n his shoulder (i have back pain problems too only that mine was different from him) and back will get severe pain when carrying heavy objects. when during medical examination he got pes b n he thought that his spine problem is recovered

then after taking the napfa test a few months later he managed to get a silver his back was pain for a whole day but he thought it was only normal backpain so he ignores it.

then a few months later he got enlisted and when he was required to carry heavy things his back and shoulder will get pain after sometime but he bears with it and it had been more and more severe until one day he can't stand it anymore n look for mo........... he was put on ooc then.............

the problems is no that we untrust saf but everyone may have a unique cases....................... no offences

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